I am just so sorry
LITS
our friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
I am just so sorry
LITS
undercover, i was interested in your last post and how you felt that believing in god is a delusion.
i'm not interested in any debates over it but i saw you have been here for 10 years!
that's some stay!
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((((((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))) Grace, I am so glad you are still here, do not know what we would do without you, you mean the world to me. I will never forget that you were the first one to reach out to me. I wil never forget your kindness to me, how just knowing someone cared meant the world to me. Thank you so much.
LITS
just wondering?
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When we had the first pedophile move into my hall that I knew of I soon learned of two more that were in the hall and my husband was an elder at the time had been for close to 30 years.
The elders put two of the pedophiles in our book study this was in 2007 two years before the book study's went away.
One of the child molesters was hell bent on working with us in field service, all the elders the whole body knew I had been a victim of sexual abuse as a child and how pedophiles made me feel really depressed, they could care less. I went to the CO about it and he told me I needed to get my feelings under control and just buck it up, that being my husband was an elder AND he HAD TO WORK WITH THE CHILD RAPISTS PERIOD!!!!!
I spiraled into a huge major depression. I dropped over 20 pounds in just two months and was very, very, very suicidal. The other elders knew it and then did NOTHING TO HELP ME. Just only telling me I was wrong in how I felt about the child molesters.
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part 3 (which is where the actual meeting begins) is finished.
it took my computer hours and hours to render and upload it!!
anyway, this is what i just posted on my youtube channel:.
Marked for latter
how many jw suicides can you recall?.
is it more common than the rest of society?.
i personally know of 5.
4 right off the top of my head. Thinking about it just now I realized they were all kids of acting elders at the time.
One hung himself off a bridge during morning traffic, so many saw him die. Another one raced his motorcycle in front for a lady driving a minivan, he had been DF'ed at the time and his step mom had told him to never call them again unless he wanted to come back to Jehovah, and the last elders son I do not know how he killed himself but my husband and I were invited to the parents house for dinner after a talk and though their son had been dead for over two years the elder dad broke down crying while we were there, it was horribly sad.
The girl who killed herself had been sexually abused by someone in the hall and it had been swept under the rug. No two wittiness's to the crime and the girl was told just to forget about it and move on, she OD"ed on sleeping pills when she was in her early 20's. The aunt was upset at the girl for killing herself saying that the pedophile said he was sorry what else could he have done. He is still in good standing in the hall.
I am sure there are others but not popping into my head as quick as these. All of them were under the age of 30.
LITS
As a side not I was horribly depressed when I was pioneering and thought about suicide a lot while out in service. We lived in the country and drove a ton just aimlesslyhardly ever talking to anyone. I used to wonder if I slit my wrists while I was sitting in the back seat of my own car as sisters were not allowed to sit in the front if there were brothers in the car group they always had the front seat where I lived. Anyway I digress, I used to wonder if anyone would notice or care for that matter if I bleed out including my husband. I still think they would have been happy to have me die.
Looking back I was horribly depressed and hate being alive, yet I was doing the most important work there is trying to drag others in to this cult, save lives.
i guess were still in a state of shock.
it seems that there are a lot of us that feel that we had a lot more freedom before armageddon.
world society is not my idea of a paradise at all, and i really think i would rather be dead then to live like this.
The new show on NBC called Revolution reminds me a lot of what it would be like if JW were right. Not a world I would want to live in.
LITS
my 97 year old grandmother died last week.
she was actually born and raised a jw.
her mother (my great grandmother) was a russelite.
I am sorry for your loss and am glad she died happy with what she did with her life. At her age to think that it was not the truth would have been horrible, it is good that she died not knowing ttatt.
Again my heart goes out to you at this time.
LITS
for a while now... i have been calling the wbt$ governing body... the wbt$ governing popes... if you go to google and type in... watchtower governing popes... then go to "images"... this is one of the photo`s that comes up... .
do you think the wbt$ will send me... a thank you note... for making their wbt$ governing popes famous?...
........................ ...outlaw.
Thanks outlaw. It was the first thing I noticed when I realized the ttatt that it is just like the Catholics. JW's are so hypocritical.
LITS
well, now that the new jw.org website is up and running, the videos keep coming thick and fast.. this latest highly-polished production shows an asian family, evidently living in america (or some other developed country), explaining how the watchtower in simplified english benefits them.. here is the link.... http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/world/video-clip-helping-children/.
the first thing that struck me was the boys playing football together at the beginning.
it seems playing soccer in pairs (as with the ministry!
To me it was a total take off of the Mormon commercial's that were playing in my area last spring. WOW is all I can say. It also reminded me of Rockcenter's interview of the Mormon's a couple of week ago.
LITS